Ty Anderson: Malcolm Subban spoils road trip, defeats Bruins

Ty Anderson: Malcolm Subban spoils road trip, defeats Bruins
- tyanderson

Trade Rask and Spooner for Subban, Smith and Miller.

Ty Anderson: Malcolm Subban spoils road trip, defeats Bruins
- tyanderson

Sorry have to utterly disagree stating the B's should automatically win because Subban is in or the AHL goalie is in. Fact is how many times has an ahl callup gone in and played lights out? Too many times to count. That's why they play the game!

Boston didn't adjust to a strong defensive Vegas team. They aren't the first to get caught by surprise by this expansion team either. They failed to generate shots and chances, but give credit where its due. Vegas outdid them.

Sorry have to utterly disagree stating the B's should automatically win because Subban is in or the AHL goalie is in. Fact is how many times has an ahl callup gone in and played lights out? Too many times to count. That's why they play the game!

Boston didn't adjust to a strong defensive Vegas team. They aren't the first to get caught by surprise by this expansion team either. They failed to generate shots and chances, but give credit where its due. Vegas outdid them.
- Roadrunner75

So, you actually agree with the story. They didn't generate shots and chances against this goalie, AHL goalie or not, which is almost exactly what I said.

- Nucker101

Going 1-3 VS Colorado X 2, Arizona and Vegas is just unacceptable. This should have been 4 automatic wins. I can't stand the makeup of forward lines 1-3. Riley Nash is a clear step behind Marchand and Pastrnak and has no business being on the top line. Pasta has not impressed me at all. He gets knocked off of the puck easily and appears to be slower than last year. He's struggling to get open and teams can easily read his cross-ice clapper on the PP. I know he has 3 goals, but one was off of his a$$ and the other from behind the net. With that new contract, he just has to be better.
Forward line 2 is a huge defensive liability with Krejci between the kids (combined -12). Line 3 has been horrendous, IMO. Spooner has been invisible, Vatrano is a one-trick pony with no confidence and Beleskey is no longer an NHL caliber player.
Meanwhile, Kenny Agostino has 7 points and Cehlarik has 5 points in 3 games for the P-Bruins.

Without Bergy and Backes there is just not enough talent on this Team. Any word on the Lone Wolf ? that was ugly last night Perron belongs on the Habs or Pens he's just that type of player

Sorry have to utterly disagree stating the B's should automatically win because Subban is in or the AHL goalie is in. Fact is how many times has an ahl callup gone in and played lights out? Too many times to count. That's why they play the game!

Boston didn't adjust to a strong defensive Vegas team. They aren't the first to get caught by surprise by this expansion team either. They failed to generate shots and chances, but give credit where its due. Vegas outdid them.
- Roadrunner75

This.

- Nucker101

It's not even the right shade. Racist.

That game was pretty pathetic last night. Almost zero quality chances. They need Patrice back ASAP.

The 4th line has been doing its job and Krejci has been pretty good too but that is about it.

Marchand needs Patrice back, hes been terrible. Pasta hasnt been great. Bjork avoids all contact. Debrusk has been ok. Heinen has looked pretty good. Painful painful game last night. Spooner with 6 minutes TOI,

That game was pretty pathetic last night. Almost zero quality chances. They need Patrice back ASAP.

The 4th line has been doing its job and Krejci has been pretty good too but that is about it.

Marchand needs Patrice back, hes been terrible. Pasta hasnt been great. Bjork avoids all contact. Debrusk has been ok. Heinen has looked pretty good. Painful painful game last night. Spooner with 6 minutes TOI,
- Mahewman

Marchand has 6 points in 5 games without Bergy......and that is bad? I get this hasnt been the start everyone was hoping for, but give it at least the first 10 games. After 10 you usually see how this team is going to click going forward and perhaps after then Cassidy will stop shuffling the lines like a madman.

Bergy will help, Pasta will get better, and Backes will bring a nice stabilizing presence to the third line (or second line depending on how the final lines look). For me, this team struggles with a 60 minute game. Give the young talent some time to click.

When Vegas comes to Boston in November and this team shells out another performance like that, I think that would be a more appropriate time for a negative value assessment.

Marchand has 6 points in 5 games without Bergy......and that is bad? I get this hasnt been the start everyone was hoping for, but give it at least the first 10 games. After 10 you usually see how this team is going to click going forward and perhaps after then Cassidy will stop shuffling the lines like a madman.

Bergy will help, Pasta will get better, and Backes will bring a nice stabilizing presence to the third line (or second line depending on how the final lines look). For me, this team struggles with a 60 minute game. Give the young talent some time to click.

When Vegas comes to Boston in November and this team shells out another performance like that, I think that would be a more appropriate time for a negative value assessment.
- dothedougie

dothedougie as the voice of reason

dothedougie as the voice of reason
- Horus1927

Thought I would try something new.

Marchand has 6 points in 5 games without Bergy......and that is bad? I get this hasnt been the start everyone was hoping for, but give it at least the first 10 games. After 10 you usually see how this team is going to click going forward and perhaps after then Cassidy will stop shuffling the lines like a madman.

Bergy will help, Pasta will get better, and Backes will bring a nice stabilizing presence to the third line (or second line depending on how the final lines look). For me, this team struggles with a 60 minute game. Give the young talent some time to click.

When Vegas comes to Boston in November and this team shells out another performance like that, I think that would be a more appropriate time for a negative value assessment.
- dothedougie

Yeah, he has the points but hes trying to do to much and its causing countless turnovers just inside the offensive blue line. Hes trying to go through 3 people instead of getting it deep or to the point.

Either way, they need Patrice back. Too weak of a schedule to start off 2-3.

Thought I would try something new.
- dothedougie

We switched roles today. That game last night got under my skin. No firepower against Malcolm Subban....

Yeah, he has the points but hes trying to do to much and its causing countless turnovers just inside the offensive blue line. Hes trying to go through 3 people instead of getting it deep or to the point.

Either way, they need Patrice back. Too weak of a schedule to start off 2-3.
- Mahewman

They gave him Riley Nash as a line mate. You would have to figure out a way to generate offense too if you were always 3 strides ahead of your center. I question the decision of having Nash up there. I think a speedier center would solve a lot of the issues of Marchand having to take matters into his own hands.

I will agree with you on one point though, more effort is needed. It is just refreshing to see some kids out there getting time instead of being force-fed lines of veterans because there is no trust in younger players.

We switched roles today. That game last night got under my skin. No firepower against Malcolm Subban....
- Mahewman

Not disagreeing with you there. Any goalie looks good when you fire the puck at his chest or dont keep him honest.


This is the moment where I want to see a few lights-out performances from Rask. If the offense continues to struggle, then the D and Goalie need to tighten up until they figure it out.

Maybe call up JFK and let him take a whack at things? Is he not projected to be Bergy 2.0 (a bit of a stretch at this point, I know).

Spooner has 6 minutes because he got injured...

The game was painful to watch. As were the Avs games. But Colorado and Vegas have been playing well...
I don't understand the lines at all. Why did he take Pasta from Krej? Keep them together. Instead, both top lines are getting screwed up. Spooner should be setting up Marchand and Krej setting up Pasta:

Marchand Spooner Bjork
Debrusk Krejci Pasta
Belesky Nash Vatrano
Schaller Kuraly Heinen

I would even put Heinen on the third in place of Belesky.

Spooner has 6 minutes because he got injured...

The game was painful to watch. As were the Avs games. But Colorado and Vegas have been playing well...
I don't understand the lines at all. Why did he take Pasta from Krej? Keep them together. Instead, both top lines are getting screwed up. Spooner should be setting up Marchand and Krej setting up Pasta:

Marchand Spooner Bjork
Debrusk Krejci Pasta
Belesky Nash Vatrano
Schaller Kuraly Heinen

I would even put Heinen on the third in place of Belesky.
- Videoj

I like this idea. Then a temporary call up for the 4th line until Bergy and Backes get back. Scratch Beleskey all together. I think this experiment has to end. Cassidy likes to shuffle lines. Kills chemistry when you are always playing with different guys.

Spooner has 6 minutes because he got injured...

The game was painful to watch. As were the Avs games. But Colorado and Vegas have been playing well...
I don't understand the lines at all. Why did he take Pasta from Krej? Keep them together. Instead, both top lines are getting screwed up. Spooner should be setting up Marchand and Krej setting up Pasta:

Marchand Spooner Bjork
Debrusk Krejci Pasta
Belesky Nash Vatrano
Schaller Kuraly Heinen

I would even put Heinen on the third in place of Belesky.
- Videoj

I was thinking Nash was centering that line due to Faceoff percentage, But Nash and Spooner are about the same in this department, mediocre. I think it boils down to Nash is a bit better defensively.

Either way things will be better up front when Bergeron returns. Going to be a long season defensively. The coaching staff has it's work cut out here.

I was thinking Nash was centering that line due to Faceoff percentage, But Nash and Spooner are about the same in this department, mediocre. I think it boils down to Nash is a bit better defensively.

Either way things will be better up front when Bergeron returns. Going to be a long season defensively. The coaching staff has it's work cut out here.
- glove_was_stuck

They will learn.

I was thinking Nash was centering that line due to Faceoff percentage, But Nash and Spooner are about the same in this department, mediocre. I think it boils down to Nash is a bit better defensively.

Either way things will be better up front when Bergeron returns. Going to be a long season defensively. The coaching staff has it's work cut out here.
- glove_was_stuck

I don't think you're wrong, Nash is better as a two-way forward, but I don't think it is necessary in this case. Marchand is already responsible. Nash could be the defensive mind for Vatrano and Belesky/Heinen.

And Dougie, I disagree about Belesky. I enjoy his game more than Kuraly or Schaller. He should be a grinder on the 3rd line complementing some skill, or a 4th liner mucking it up with Nash and Acciari or Schaller.

Personally I think Kuraly needs to be banished. He had good "heroics" in the playoffs for a game, but he is basically the reason we got scored on Sunday. And he takes stupid penalties too often.

I don't think you're wrong, Nash is better as a two-way forward, but I don't think it is necessary in this case. Marchand is already responsible. Nash could be the defensive mind for Vatrano and Belesky/Heinen.

And Dougie, I disagree about Belesky. I enjoy his game more than Kuraly or Schaller. He should be a grinder on the 3rd line complementing some skill, or a 4th liner mucking it up with Nash and Acciari or Schaller.

Personally I think Kuraly needs to be banished. He had good "heroics" in the playoffs for a game, but he is basically the reason we got scored on Sunday. And he takes stupid penalties too often.
- Videoj

Nothing saying we cant agree to disagree. Just saying if Beleskey was dropped on waivers tomorrow and either claimed or sent to providence, I wouldn't care at all.